Yes, this is not trouble, but it does raise serious concerns about graduation practices. I too have seen my admin take privileges with students she wanted graduated so that the Jr. High would have to "deal" with them. The truth is "social promotion" exists.
I also left another comment on the previous thread and would love if ANON would respond.
But I do agree with one point, this blog and its writer ROCK!!!
P.O. I don't think posts like this should be private. One of the great things about this blog is you raise valid educational issues that should be debated. You said nothing wrong... you said what you felt.
Plus, I don't really think anyone cares about your educational view points anyway... they come here for the pictures. :)
"Credit recovery" is an unbelievable hoax. Kids should be responsible enough to go to gym, and do their 15 or 16 labs per semester in their lab science courses. Many of these kids would have been better off in, say, plumbing, welding, cosmetology, or beauty culture. No, they should all go to college for what? Let their parents pay for tuition for "remedial" courses in the local community college which they won't graduate from either. You continue to bring up core issues in education. What's so wrong about that?
This is the first (or maybe second) time in 30 years I am not hated by the administration. It is a good feeling. I would like the feelings to continue.
That is the reason I started the second blog. I have to really start thinking before I hit the publish button.
I think when you bring up debates about education in general, even if the debate is one started at your own school, that debate should have a open forum. I asked Lily of the Valley to take a peek since she taught college. That would not have been possible on the closed blog.
I can tell you that I have had students who never completed homework or classwork, but passed the standardized tests. This pattern was going on long before I got him, but the principal wanted to see this child out of the school rather than have another year at our school. It seemed that the parent was contacted many times throughout the child's elementary school history. But the parent was not very cooperative. The principal thought it would be a waste of a year to have that child held back. But, without consequences, we will never know if that action might have forced the parent and student to take the action necessary to save this child from such a pattern.
So now we have an equation (thanks to Klein) where parents and students take no responsibility and pass.
Your admin will have to sit back and decide to go the Klein way (seat credit and faulty graduation rates) or no graduation. And, I am sure after your posting, he is going over the records to make sure attendance problems are on the radar as they happen so no other child can get away with missing 4 years of gym, a year of history, or any other course. Unfortunately, the decision on this kid, right or wrong (and I think wrong) was already made. But perhaps now, do to this blog, a better policy will be put into place.
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what trouble... just a healthy debate of opinions! You still rock!
Glad to hear that.
I was sorry I did not post that last one on the private blog.
Yes, this is not trouble, but it does raise serious concerns about graduation practices. I too have seen my admin take privileges with students she wanted graduated so that the Jr. High would have to "deal" with them. The truth is "social promotion" exists.
I also left another comment on the previous thread and would love if ANON would respond.
But I do agree with one point, this blog and its writer ROCK!!!
Schoolgal
P.O. I don't think posts like this should be private. One of the great things about this blog is you raise valid educational issues that should be debated. You said nothing wrong... you said what you felt.
Plus, I don't really think anyone cares about your educational view points anyway... they come here for the pictures. :)
"Credit recovery" is an unbelievable hoax. Kids should be responsible enough to go to gym, and do their 15 or 16 labs per semester in their lab science courses. Many of these kids would have been better off in, say, plumbing, welding, cosmetology, or beauty culture. No, they should all go to college for what? Let their parents pay for tuition for "remedial" courses in the local community college which they won't graduate from either. You continue to bring up core issues in education. What's so wrong about that?
This is the first (or maybe second) time in 30 years I am not hated by the administration. It is a good feeling. I would like the feelings to continue.
That is the reason I started the second blog. I have to really start thinking before I hit the publish button.
I think when you bring up debates about education in general, even if the debate is one started at your own school, that debate should have a open forum. I asked Lily of the Valley to take a peek since she taught college. That would not have been possible on the closed blog.
I can tell you that I have had students who never completed homework or classwork, but passed the standardized tests. This pattern was going on long before I got him, but the principal wanted to see this child out of the school rather than have another year at our school. It seemed that the parent was contacted many times throughout the child's elementary school history. But the parent was not very cooperative. The principal thought it would be a waste of a year to have that child held back.
But, without consequences, we will never know if that action might have forced the parent and student to take the action necessary to save this child from such a pattern.
So now we have an equation (thanks to Klein) where parents and students take no responsibility and pass.
Your admin will have to sit back and decide to go the Klein way (seat credit and faulty graduation rates) or no graduation. And, I am sure after your posting, he is going over the records to make sure attendance problems are on the radar as they happen so no other child can get away with missing 4 years of gym, a year of history, or any other course. Unfortunately, the decision on this kid, right or wrong (and I think wrong) was already made. But perhaps now, do to this blog, a better policy will be put into place.
Schoolgal
Bravo & well said Schoolgal
Nah...it's all good POd! I like debates!
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